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Offline BuildingBrotherhoo

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« on: January 16, 2008, 03:07:44 PM »
a quick endorsement for two young hot-shot up and comers.

i strongly encourage both troy cameron and dave brown to run for eboard.

they have the talent, fight, heart and vision to add to an already dynamic and progressive local union.

harry antsey, should also be on the short list.  i realize phil worthington is viable, and so too steve berry.

there are five names that should make the short list.  and there are more.

i'd vote for all of them...

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« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2008, 04:58:03 PM »
you should have used your stroke to get one of them appointed.  far better than JP who didn't even attend meetings after the last election until RW resigned. >:(
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« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2008, 07:26:18 PM »
Cameron Brown? Where have I heard that name before?

Oh I know he was our actuary in 1995 who recommended to the local 353 trustees not to invest in Retrocom.

Sorry you are making it hard to forget. :(
« Last Edit: January 16, 2008, 07:27:04 PM by commguy353 »

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« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2008, 10:49:59 PM »
a quick endorsement for two young hot-shot up and comers.

i strongly encourage both troy cameron and dave brown to run for eboard.

they have the talent, fight, heart and vision to add to an already dynamic and progressive local union.

harry antsey, should also be on the short list.  i realize phil worthington is viable, and so too steve berry.

there are five names that should make the short list.  and there are more.

i'd vote for all of them...

That's 5 recomendations and there are six spots on eboard. You need one more what about residential man? But wait you have the new guy appointed. How does it affect Tony Chiapetta who cracked the lineup for the convention? What about Bill Acorn who beat out all the rest of the eboard?
Do those guys have enough meetings in? Is that the problem?

Don't worry about it there is no room for them anyways.

Wait does that mean Jeff Irons is out? ???
Stevie Belanger out? ???
Rob White coming home, does he het his spot back or is he out too? ???

Mike Lloyd is finished nobody will trust him now. ::)

Barry Stevens, he's too old and tired of politics ;D

What do the odds makers say? :P

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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2008, 06:56:17 PM »
thanks for the reminder.  i do remember troy cameron suggesting that our members be given the option of opting out of our health and welfare plan and plunking their money into blue cross or whatever private plan they wanted. so too brother harvey antsey.  

this would in essense spell the end of funding the retiree's health and welfare benefits in the pursuit of self avowed individualism.  

it reflects the individualistic thinking (3-5-ME) that plagues the USA ie., 401k's worker directed pension accounts to invest in the risky stock market.  

401k's are probably one of the biggest disasters to befall american workers, yet our knowledgeable LU 353 opposition advocate similar policies.

when the brothers talk about funding the health and welfare benefits of brothers who do not work and advocate in essence a cradle to grave entitlement to take care of down trodden brothers, it seems hypocritical for these same brothers to advocate policies that disenfrancise our LU 353 retiree's.

with $2.15 in found money that Joe Fashion negotiated for the membership, i'd like to plunk $1.00 into our pension and .25 cents into our health and welfare and/or various other funds.  this should allow us to maintain the socialist swedish model of state provided benefits we currently enjoy in LU 353 and you advocate.  yet some of you folks come on these boards and curse Barry Stevens because he is an avowed social democrat/trade unionist.

oh well, see you guys on Saturday at the Wiz's gala affair if you aren't ski-dooing.  
« Last Edit: January 24, 2008, 08:16:38 AM by BuildingBrotherhoo »

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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2008, 07:45:28 PM »
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oh well, see you guys on Saturday at the Wiz's gala affair  if you aren't ski-dooing.  

Great we will play a little ball hockey with you in the net. ;D
« Last Edit: January 23, 2008, 07:45:44 PM by Atthehall »

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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2008, 08:37:15 PM »
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with $2.15 in found money that Joe Fashion negotiated for the membership

BuildingBrotherWhores....could you refresh my memory forme,please?

What was the "me too" amount Jojo negotiated DOWN from to get us that 2.15 ?...I've forgotten.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2008, 08:37:40 PM by commguy353 »

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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2008, 11:57:15 PM »
Before quoting members get your facts straight.
I have always said that any changes to H&W to be voted on by the members and any changes include covering retirees and members on the out of work list.
Whatever percentage these two groups use of the benefits the remainder be placed in the contributing members account to use on the benefits best suited for them. I am not saying that this is a better system but new ideas are what keep organizations from being stagnate.
Local 804 has a H&W cap,that being after contributing a certain amount each year they no longer contribute until next year.
I do recall that they are the local that you wanted to model the Mail in Ballot after?
Options are what should be given to the many not only be decide upon by the few!

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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2008, 06:56:24 PM »
I have repeatedly stated that we pay a lot of money for the benefits we receive. It is past time that we looked at other options that are out there. Asking a member to pay over $5000 per year is in my opinion excessive.
I have stated that we should look at other alternatives (like blue cross) and see if we can’t save money for the brotherhood.
In the Sept. meeting your hero was going to make changes to our plan and try to blame it on politics, he couldn’t even get it straight why we were making the changes, read up on the sept. meeting and you will be able to see who was trying to use our benefits as a political tool.

In the joint proposal it stated that we would receive the average of the two highest wage increases, so please explain to me how Joe negotiated anything? The BM also stated in January’s meeting that the union offered $1.65 to the contractors  so how is he such a good negotiator?
If he was such a good negotiator wouldn’t we have led all trades and have no need of makeup money?
Maybe next time we should let the demolition guys negotiate for us.
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